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    Hydrostream venom????

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron78viper View Post
    Hydrostream venom????
    That's not so much a rough water boat....just like my SRV or the Triad V21...they work well in lake chop but I don't think it would handle the bigger stuff like a 21 SOB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoktorC View Post
    That's not so much a rough water boat....just like my SRV or the Triad V21...they work well in lake chop but I don't think it would handle the bigger stuff like a 21 SOB.
    i apologize for my ignorance here. what does SOB stand for??

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron78viper View Post
    i apologize for my ignorance here. what does SOB stand for??
    Quote Originally Posted by 302Sport View Post
    No cats just vee bottoms. APBA used to have a SOB class that specified vee bottom single OB 21-24ft. Looking for something in that range
    or...Slow Outboard Boat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaron78viper View Post
    Hydrostream venom????
    Venom......Yes Very fast, wide flat pad and low deadrise at around 600lbs. = Lake boat.

    Single Outboard vee 21'-24' (SOB) rough water boats have usually thinner pad, steeper deadrise (21,22,23,or 24degree), weighs more (950-1300) from stronger lay up but getting lighter with new technology construction. That's what all this "huff and Puff" is about...
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    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
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    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250
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    Length and Beam dimensions added ............

    Tuff 21 hull weight = 950lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam
    Progression 22 hull weight =<s>1225</s> lbs …..948lbs – 22’1” Long, 7’8” Beam
    Bernico F2 21 hull weight = 705lbs– 21’3” Long, 6’3” Beam
    Nordic Crossfire 21 hull weight= N/A– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam
    Sutphen 21 SS hull weight = N/A –20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam

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    My opinion is Progression 22 and Intimidator 21 - both of which ran over 102 and 103 respectively.

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    I don't think any boat in this day and age should have a carpeted floor.
    snap in carpet over a inner liner is much better in my humble opinion

    My biggest gripe on the progression.
    I am sure the liner adds some weight to the other boats....
    Probably adds strength too. Gel sprayed in a mold will be more stain
    resistant as well (than rolled after thought)
    Capet also hides a lot of booboos
    Formula 260ss 496HO

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    Roger that GM, I just changed the length. Hope more folks post up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scream And Fly View Post
    My opinion is Progression 22 and Intimidator 21 - both of which ran over 102 and 103 respectively.
    Is Intimidator still building new hulls? Thought they stopped long ago.

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    Tuff 21 hull weight = 950lbs – 20’8” Long, 7’7” Beam
    Progression 22 hull weight =<s>1225</s> lbs …..948lbs – 22’1” Long, 7’8” Beam
    Bernico F2 21 hull weight = 705lbs– 21’3” Long, 6’3” Beam
    Nordic Crossfire 21 hull weight= N/A– 21’ Long, 7’1” Beam
    Sutphen 21 SS hull weight = N/A –20’9” Long, 7’2” Beam

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    Quote Originally Posted by RBT View Post
    Cool, someone that understands.
    I agree with you on the weight/balance.
    My 4500lbs Kryptonite will spank my 6500lbs Avanti in rough water.
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    1990 22 Activator , hull weight =1280, 21'1' long , 6'5" beam (chine to chine)
    1990 22' Activator Yami HPDI 300-sold
    1976 21' Challenger 2002 3.1 Yami 250 Vmax phase lll 89.7-sold
    1982 21' Superboat
    1990 22' Activator yami OX66 Vmax 250
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    I heard somewhere the intimidator molds were in predator marines yard FWIW

    Measured my challenger a while back 20'-5"

    Someone really needs to step up and buy a tuff or at least let superbender borrow one to do some long term testing,
    77 challenger 200 yami
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnelson964 View Post
    1990 22 Activator , hull weight =1280, 21'1' long , 6'5" beam (chine to chine)
    I assume that 6'5" is chine to chine at the transom, correct? Beam is the widest part of the boat which is normally rub rail to rub rail a little forward of the drivers bucket. I bet it is greater then 7'

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