XD-100 oil replacement?

[Markus]

On sierras web site it sais that full synthetic sierra can be used in place of xd-100 on the reduced oil rate. I never heard any oil claim you can use it on the reduced oil rate, thought that was crazy.

Why?

If BRP can get someone to manufacture oil to a certain specification, why couldn't Sierra?

[Markus]

If you are going to use the Sierra oil, be sure the motor is at the TC-W3 setting,

This oil is designed for the XD-100 setting.

From Sierra's website:

"Full Synthetic, TC-W3 rated. For use in BRP E-TEC programmed for XD-100. Can be used in place of either Direct-Injection or Premium Blend. Ashless formulation. Provides superior protection and lubrication to ALL two-cycle outboard engines. Red dye added for visual recognition.
Replaces: BRP XD-100."

[Lockjaw]

Markus, I would bet money BRP would not honor a warranty for an oil related failure at 100 to 1 on an etec without the BRP oil.

[Eggsuckindog]

Markus, I would bet money BRP would not honor a warranty for an oil related failure at 100 to 1 on an etec without the BRP oil.

I would also ask WHY, how much cheaper could it be?- its already running 100/1 just use the correct stuff - why do people always try and reinvent the wheel?

I use Merc Prem+ and get very little smoke, I tried some Pennziol as nate did and it smoked - not sure why but it was very noticeable at the ramp - end of day.

[nate.]

i used penzoil for the "double oil" period when new and 1 full oil tank after that. since then its been xd 100 and im at about 250 hours in a lil over a year. im gonna do a decarb in the next few days to see what happens.

[Lockjaw]

I can tell you whats gonna happen, nothing. XD100 has that carb X in it, you don't need to decarb.

[Markus]

Markus, I would bet money BRP would not honor a warranty for an oil related failure at 100 to 1 on an etec without the BRP oil.

That may well be, but BRP would probably be on thin ice from a legal perspective - It would be worth checking if Sierra would cover it in that case...

[Markus]

I would also ask WHY, how much cheaper could it be?- its already running 100/1 just use the correct stuff - why do people always try and reinvent the wheel?

Why?

Because some people just don't like being taken advantage of.

[Speed Sr.]

I agree too. I'm not going to run my 250 HO on some cheaper oil and take the chance of doing some damage to the engine. I have run previous motors on Amsoil synthetic outboard motor oil with very good results.

[Lockjaw]

Why?

Because some people just don't like being taken advantage of.

No I would be the language of their warranty is worded to say it that way. Personally I wouldn't use the 100 to 1 setting, but thats me.

[pointer]

Maybe I just don't get it? Boat costs how much? Add the etec, trailer etc? And the price difference between XD 100 and the Sierra is how much?

I run what the manufacturer recommends. Boat, truck, snowmobiles, lawn tractor - you name it, if I own it the dealer sees me on a regular basis, buying the manufacturer recommended products. When I have an issue the dealer knows me, and takes care of me. To me that is worth the price difference to aftermarket.

To me it is a no brainer. I'll spend a few extra bucks to buy the manufacturers products, support the dealer and the brand. Guess I'm brand loyal, I dunno.
When I started running my own boat 25 yrs ago, I remember commenting to a buddy about the cost of gas and oil. His words of advice were "if you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch".

pointer

[Dcramer]

I suspect its part of the antitrust legislation. for example, car manufacturers can't void the warranty if you don't use their oil filters, oil, air filter, etc. All they can do is show the specifications that the product must meet in order to preserve the warranty. I believe the same would be true for marine engines. BRP (or anyone else) couldn't deny a warranty claim for not using their oil as long as an oil that meets their spec is used.

That said, I agree with pointer. I run XD50 in my Johnson...not that much more money, and the motor runs good. One less thing to worry about out on the water, and an excuse to shoot the breeze with the guys at the dealer.

[Riverman]

I don't think this is the same thing. There are a lot of proprietary stuff on the Etec and the oil takes a big part in making it all work together. The company specifies XD-100 exclusively and there is no equivalent specification. If you blow the motor up under warranty and are not using the recommended oil you will not have a leg to stand on.

[seahorse]

There are a lot of proprietary stuff on the Etec and the oil takes a big part in making it all work together. The company specifies XD-100 exclusively and there is no equivalent specification. If you blow the motor up under warranty and are not using the recommended oil you will not have a leg to stand on.

Just to clarify things:

You can use any TC-W3 certified oil in an E-TEC at the normal factory setting, or any of the Evinrude oils. That satisifies the factory warranty and satisfies the government, no problem.

If you decide to have your dealer program the motor for the optional reduced-oil setting, then you HAVE to use the XD-100 oil. There is no substitute in BRP Evinrude's eyes any any lubrication failure from other oils would not be covered in the reduced-oil setting.

[LIQUID NIRVANA]

XD100 does NOT mean 100:1 fuel oil mix.

Just remember that the EMM is constantly changing the fuel oil ratio (8 million times a second in fact) due to a myriad of factors, load, RPM etc.