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01-07-2011, 09:50 PM #15000 RPM
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Whats up with hydrostream??
I havent been paying attention lately to what the situation is with hydrostream and their molds, particularly the venom mold. The last I knew Jim Contzen was building the venom, vegas and one or two others in Maryville Tennennee. I was at the shop and it appeared a lot of care was going into the build of the hulls. A couple of years ago i heard there a guy by the name of Phil building the venom in a different location.
Would be interested in knowing who, if anyone, is building the venom or if not, what became of the venom molds.
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01-07-2011, 09:55 PM #2
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01-08-2011, 11:50 PM #3
I have spoken with Jim and I don't want to speak on his behalf, but I'm sure he will eventually chime in. What he's done with the company is his business, but what I can tell you he is on the right track and the New Hydrostream is looking great Is he making boats in the same factory as Stroker, yes. Are all build processes and manufacturing product and technique controlled by Jim, yes. So regardless of where the boats are built, Jim is making sure every one of them are personally to his standards. I look forward to seeing some new 2011 'Streams myself and I'm sure Jim will have his input on this as well.
The Venom is Jim's doing and he is full of knowledge about all of his new hull designs. The Venom hull is extremely cool to see and hear about, ESPECIALLY some of the numbers I've seen these boats putting down in 800'/1000' and in a Top End Shoot Out. It was designed to be one of the most stable, fast, and sweet looking 20' outboards out there and I'm sure a lot of Venom owners will agree. I personally believe this specific hull is capable of being one of the fastest V-Pad hulls on the market, and I'll say it, EVEN compared to an Allison.Hydrostream Owners Group
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01-08-2011, 11:54 PM #4-Kevin
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01-09-2011, 12:10 AM #5
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01-09-2011, 12:21 AM #6
I can't say in every aspect the Venom is a better boat, but I can say for drivability and top speed that it is a very tough competitor. Aesthetic aspects of the boat are of Hydrostream Contzen design and in my opinion look great, but I wouldn't mind seeing a more vintage style windshield. There has been a lot of work put in to the design of the Venom and I have not spoken with Jim about every aspect...and I'm not quite sure I would puke if I saw these boats next to each other. Rather, I'd be trying to get both of them to the boat ramp at one time to see how they really do line up.
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01-09-2011, 12:47 AM #7
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01-13-2011, 02:09 PM #85000 RPM
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01-07-2011, 10:02 PM #9
Here is kinda what I know. Phil from PK Marine in GA was building the Venom for hydrostream. He told me that he obtained all the copyrights to the hydrostream name/brand but then he went under and there was alot of BS with customers and what not and it was not making the Hydrostream name look good. Then after he went under, from what I heard, Jim started building them again and Phil never actually held the rights for hydrostream but was building them under/for Jim. I could be way wrong here on the him building them for jim but this is what I was told. Phil and I had our rounds via email about some stuff and that when he told me he was in control and the owner of hydrostream and had obtained all the rights and what not but I heard that is far from true. As where the Venom and the new/old Viper mold ended up that Phil had, I do not know.
Here is some good news though... It was posted a month ago too - http://www.hydrostream.com/news.html-Kevin
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01-07-2011, 10:07 PM #105000 RPM
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Dont no much heard they were shut down in GA. And a handfull of orders that have not been filled..
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01-08-2011, 08:59 AM #11
It's time for Howard Pipcorn to get back into boat building and bring back the legacy of Hydrostream! The Venom is a great boat but came out when the economy went to crap...bad timing....most people have a hard enough time buying a used boat and the price of a new boat is astronomical due to the cost of materials and labor...
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Checkmate Pulsare 2400/Verado 300
Checkmate Starflite/Merc Pro XB250
Canadian Edition Hydrostream AE-21/Merc 2.5
Checkmate Pulsare 2100/Merc 225Xri
Hydrostream Valero YT Bowrider/Merc 175
Talon T-21/Mercury Racing 2.5 Carb
Sleekcraft ModVP Bowrider/Evinrude 225 Vindicator
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Scout 172 Sportfish/Yamaha 130
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01-08-2011, 10:27 AM #12
This explains why my price request went unanswered.
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01-08-2011, 11:18 PM #13I'll be @ the bar ! & Listen to MORE Squarepusher !! Alcohol TYCOON !!!
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01-08-2011, 11:40 PM #14
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01-09-2011, 12:26 PM #15
Scott, I agree..Pipcorn's build quality left alot to be desired..some boats were great, other's fell apart but it was Pipcorn's vision and ideas that got us to where we are today. You see more old Hydrostreams being ressurected than any other manufacturer and all the designs were fast and forward thinking for the day. I'd like to see Howard come to the table with new designs using todays manufacturing techniques! I'm sure some cool boats would come out of it..
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Barracuda 188CCR/Suzuki 140
Past Boats:
Checkmate 2800SX/Twin Merc 250’s
Checkmate Pulsare 2400/Verado 300
Checkmate Starflite/Merc Pro XB250
Canadian Edition Hydrostream AE-21/Merc 2.5
Checkmate Pulsare 2100/Merc 225Xri
Hydrostream Valero YT Bowrider/Merc 175
Talon T-21/Mercury Racing 2.5 Carb
Sleekcraft ModVP Bowrider/Evinrude 225 Vindicator
Velocity 230/Mercury 454 Magnum
Scout 172 Sportfish/Yamaha 130
SeaRay F16 Jet boat/Mercury SportJet
SeaRay 17' Seville/Merc I/O