*** SPY PHOTOS*** ETEC Drag

**baja200merk** · 12-13-2011, 11:12 PM

Al so a 200hp 60* E-tec powerhead will not fit on a early 60* mid ?

**John S** · 12-13-2011, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Riverman

Evinrude's Etec is far superior to Merc's Optimax in terms of reliability.

How would you know anything aboot reliability? You're Canadian, your boating season starts on the last day of June when the last spring iceberg floats by, until the first day of July when the first winter iceberg starts forming... =)

**xsflight** · 12-14-2011, 11:06 AM

That is funny and about as truthful as riverman's last comment, I went for a slalom run november 27 and for a cruise on sunday.

**Riverman** · 12-14-2011, 11:07 AM

John, here in Winnipeg winter has been officially cancelled. Sorry.

**Riverman** · 12-14-2011, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by xsflight

That is funny and about as truthful as riverman's last comment

We hear about Optimax compressors blowing up all the time on here. Etec has no moving parts.

**Dukeofchippewa** · 12-14-2011, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Riverman

John, here in Winnipeg winter has been officially cancelled. Sorry.

Here to in Wisconsin, it's raining today.

**Dukeofchippewa** · 12-14-2011, 04:02 PM

Cute lil Musky.

**Capt.Insane-o** · 12-14-2011, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Riverman

We hear about Optimax compressors blowing up all the time on here. Etec has no moving parts.

I had my usual pile this season of grenaded compressors, non functional DI injectors, boxes of spark plugs, reed blocks missing reeds, three power heads with no core value, etc.

On the e-tec side , replaced two injectors and an emm rebuilt due to a faulty water in fuel circuit.

**Instigator** · 12-14-2011, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Capt.Insane-o

I had my usual pile this season of grenaded compressors, non functional DI injectors, boxes of spark plugs, reed blocks missing reeds, three power heads with no core value, etc.

On the e-tec side , replaced two injectors and an emm rebuilt due to a faulty water in fuel circuit.

I would like to see a number put on the failures due to un-trained techs/mechanics. I pulled down a dead Ficht I bought that had a fuel line pinched completely closed behind the starter. Owner was sold a new Yamaha. Fairly confident previous owners "mechanic" confirmed that Fichts are crap.
Pulled down a dead, carbed looper that had new enough Wiseco's in it that all but the dead one would clean up and pass as new! Never made it though break in. Pretty sure that "mechanic" would have confirmed what crap Wiseco's are. Nothing to do w/his not knowing to add clearance for extra expansion of forged pistons

A little slower at blaming a brand these days. Not doubting your reports Saneo, just seen so much bogus work done on all of them you have to wonder how much is factual and how much is someone repeating what he was told or read.

**Dukeofchippewa** · 12-14-2011, 06:19 PM

Being an outboard fanatic, I've had many brands including Martin, OMC, Merc. etc. they all have good and bad points, just gotta live with them.

**baja200merk** · 12-14-2011, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Instigator

I would like to see a number put on the failures due to un-trained techs/mechanics. I pulled down a dead Ficht I bought that had a fuel line pinched completely closed behind the starter. Owner was sold a new Yamaha. Fairly confident previous owners "mechanic" confirmed that Fichts are crap.
Pulled down a dead, carbed looper that had new enough Wiseco's in it that all but the dead one would clean up and pass as new! Never made it though break in. Pretty sure that "mechanic" would have confirmed what crap Wiseco's are. Nothing to do w/his not knowing to add clearance for extra expansion of forged pistons

A little slower at blaming a brand these days. Not doubting your reports Saneo, just seen so much bogus work done on all of them you have to wonder how much is factual and how much is someone repeating what he was told or read.

I have an 04 175 ficht with factory powerhead and mid (confirmed by dealer). Totally unmolested commercial motor with 1380 hours on it still has PERFECT compression. When I came to pick up the light weight jack barsh powerhead from you I had that 175 ficht 98 (the bad ones

) in the bed of the truck with 2280 hours on it it still to this day has PERFECT compression but his mechanic said it needed a new computer ~500 from DFI I got it home and had it running in a half hour needed nothing but a cps. Two other 175s (the bad motors that put OMC out of business) 99s are on my buddies 21 paramount have perfect compression and run like a Swiss watch... I love the yami/4 stroke salesmen they keep me in business

**oldschoolltv** · 12-15-2011, 11:17 AM

I ran the dog poop out of my 2001 ficht 150 85.6gps on my ltv and it had close to 300 hours on it with 50% wide open running with never a cough, Matt

**Action Dave** · 12-15-2011, 04:25 PM

I worked at an OMC/BRP dealership in the early 2000's and I saw a few issues with the earlier Ficht motors. Most of the old "they catch on fire" complaints were due to crappy hardware and mounting brackets on the injectors. Once they were updated, that problem disappeared. We did however, have to replace quite a few of the older computers while still under warranty. Another bug that has since been straightened out by BRP. I am an OMC guy but I saw quite a few customers get a bad taste in their mouth. Especially when they had more troubles with their new Ficht motor in 1 year than they had in 10 years with their "old reliable" Evinrude carbbed motor.

**E-tec1** · 12-15-2011, 04:34 PM

The original DI drag was a 99 ficht..........first powerhead was a 3.0 modified into a 3.3........it had piston issues..........then we went to the 3.3 in 02..........still using the 99 emm and components.......only issues were the pistons holding up at higher rpm............when they went to the last version nasa piston......there were no more issues...........had one cps fail...........and.........a stator mounting position issue..........that was fun to find........one of these days im gonna drag that back out and run it again

**baja200merk** · 12-15-2011, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by E-tec1

The original DI drag was a 99 ficht..........first powerhead was a 3.0 modified into a 3.3........it had piston issues..........then we went to the 3.3 in 02..........still using the 99 emm and components.......only issues were the pistons holding up at higher rpm............when they went to the last version nasa piston......there were no more issues...........had one cps fail...........and.........a stator mounting position issue..........that was fun to find........one of these days im gonna drag that back out and run it again

You @!#$%$@'ers have all the fun!

Thats really cool to hear i did not know that, I know the etec injectors will turn up but will the ficht injectors limit rpm in that case?

I have seen the HIGH (<-- yes its capitalized and bold) hour ficht pistons crack the skirts off of them. Then the skirts get pulled back into the front half of the block where the big end of the rod blasts them through the block (and or into the bottom of the above/below cyl) and yes they still have good compression

The etec pistons have obviously fixed that issue.