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05-23-2009, 06:44 AM #31
My statement was more directed at the USA. Unfortunately it is very difficult to get any information out of Europe when you are in a so called "Western Country". Just take a look at any website. There is virtually nothing there pertaining to European outboard racing. If there is please direct me to it. A contact or two would be nice as well.
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05-23-2009, 06:45 AM #32
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05-23-2009, 07:09 AM #33
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05-23-2009, 07:27 AM #347000 RPM
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Liquid, what a great read, thank you for sharing.
So how many rotary engines were made during that time? And how many do you know exist today? I've see pictures of the display one at the Bomb. tech school.
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05-23-2009, 07:45 AM #35
We'll see if we can get John to clarify that.
At least 4 piled up snowmobile rotary outboard racers and 4 dedicated 4 rotor race motors were made; at least 8 ... but at any one time only 4 were "out in the wild" away from the lab.
Bob Zipps may have a line on how many are still known.
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05-23-2009, 08:45 AM #366000 RPM
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05-23-2009, 05:17 PM #37
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05-24-2009, 11:17 PM #38
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05-25-2009, 12:29 PM #39
great read,enjoyed learning about the history side of the outboards!!
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05-25-2009, 01:13 PM #406000 RPM
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All this -----but it was not serious----switch clouds liquid---must have been one of the projects that brought on the tits up situation. The investors were worried even way back then. Charlie strang and jack leek only ever played for real money.!!!!!!!!!! Have to disagree with you --------omc were always serious. !!!!!!!!!!
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05-25-2009, 11:21 PM #41
Even OMC could not fight the EPA sunshine. They (EPA) had way to much power, (Nothings changed). If the EPA got wind of how good the Rotary was in emissions (10 times better than 2 stroke outboards in 1976) & their ultra low fuel consumption then they would have banned the 2 stroke outboard instantaniously, just like they banned the 2 stroke motorbike instantaniously. Problem is it would have taken years & huge amount of money for OMC to retool a rotary range. And all other brands of 2 stroke Outboard Motors would have been history as well.
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05-26-2009, 12:49 AM #426000 RPM
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One thing has remained constant since dr wankel invented the damned thing 'it is a flawed piece of kit'. Nobody has ever made it work as a viable proposition. All the major engine manufacturers have bought into it at sometime or another, but after spending huge amounts on r&d, without exception, they all binned it. Even omc only had very limited success with it for the huge amount of lolly poured into it.
As for the instant banning of 2 stroke motorcycles, they had been around since the 1920/ 30/s that i can remember. Pruett had at least 3 kawasaki 2 strokes for 3 or 4 years that even i can remember.
Diesels used to be the bad boys as far as emissions went but the r&d put into them resulted in the cleanest burning motor on the market today.
Liquid !!! It's a brilliant article and i did not mean to piss on your parade. But iv'e always been a cranky disagreeable old bastard, [that's what my kids tell me]
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One thing has remained constant since dr wankel invented the damned thing 'it is a flawed piece of kit'. Nobody has ever made it work as a viable proposition. All the major engine manufacturers have bought into it at sometime or another, but after spending huge amounts on r&d, without exception, they all binned it. Even omc only had very limited success with it for the huge amount of lolly poured into it.
As for the instant banning of 2 stroke motorcycles, they had been around since the 1920/ 30/s that i can remember. Pruett had at least 3 kawasaki 2 strokes for 3 or 4 years that even i can remember.
Diesels used to be the bad boys as far as emissions went but the r&d put into them resulted in the cleanest burning motor on the market today.
Liquid !!! It's a brilliant article and i did not mean to piss on your parade. But iv'e always been a cranky disagreeable old bastard, [that's what my kids tell me]
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05-26-2009, 01:18 AM #44
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