Save Phace?

[theoldwizard]

... Because I fell off backwards the water grabbing the helmet from underneath was a big ouch. And we were only going 65mph.

Sounds like something similar to a HANS device might help.

[theoldwizard]

...It's like seat belts. On a head on collision they keep you in the car. The good part is your body is held in place, but your innards want to keep going.Had 2 sisters that were in a head on i a car. The one without seatbelts hit the windshield and was a little hurt. The one with the belt had massive internal injuries from the belt, and is messed up...

Sorry to hear of the injury.

Just out of curiosity was the second sister in the back seat restrained only by lap belt ? Many people do not know how to properly adjust a lap belt low and across the hips. Higher (across the "gut") can cause serious internal injuries.

For those of you who don't think the "stock" lap/shoulder belts provide adequate restraint check out CG-Lock It keeps the lap portion of you belt tight while allowing the should portion to stay loose. I have used it and it works.

[Li'l Toy]

I raced OPC in the late 70s and early 80s. Full face helmets were just coming in then, and maybe safety cells were just starting in the unlimited hydros. The issue that Nordskog complained about was called "bucketing." Back then, you were far more likely to enter the water after a blowover or roll separate from your boat. If you were flying feet first when you went in, when the big bottom ring of a full face helmet caught the water, it could put a big torque on your neck and kill you. Somewhere along the way, "skid collars" were added to the back of racing jackets that went above the bottom edge of the helmet and tried to avoid bucketing if the helmet hits back first.

Seems to me I heard a story of a guy running a kilo trial here in Florida (Lake Okeechobee?) in a three point where the skeg snapped, boat went over, he went into the water and was killed instantly. And he had a seat belt with an inertial lock somehow fastened, like to his belt or jacket and the bottom front of the helmet.

Nordskog had developed a very tight fitting helmet. I know he made a few, and was trying to get the idea approved by the APBA with no success. His idea was that impact protection was important, but not nearly as important as on a motorcycle or in a car, so you sacrificed some cushioning and impact protection for less surface area to catch the water at 80 plus mph. I don't recall that system ever being made available to the public.

I always used an open face helmet--didn't look as high tech, but less surface to catch the water. Nowadays, most classes--at least in OPC--are in capsules, and hitting the water at 80 isn't as likely.

Just as a comment--remember the guy who blew over up at the Suwanee? I don't remember his name. Look at those photos and videos of him skipping over the water, and picture what hapens if the helmet catches the water first.

[WATERWINGS]

You mean Hank Hogan?

Now adays, when we are telling somone to be careful, and don't over trim, we say, "Don't pull a Hank Hogan"............sorry hank.

"Its a sickness coupled with an obsession" Truer words were never spoken....


wasn't that Hank that coined that phrase?

[Hottrucks]

Heeres the link to the rest of the pics
http://forums.screamandfly.com/forum...ad.php?t=78759

[baja200merk]

laker swears by those save phace masks...

[Fish]

two comments:

the face thingy above might be an idea for sturgeon on the suwannee. Straight impact will still tear your head off, but it might help with lesser contact

Lifeline has harnesses that you can wear under your lifevest that attaches to your helmet to help with the bucketing. I don't really believe a full bucket will be thwarted, but again it might help.

[Laker]

These are Freakin-A-Awsome.
Dont knock them until you try them....
NOT!!! A replacement for a helmet.
I wear mine like you would wear sunglasses while boating with the added benefit of protecting the rest of your face, not just your eyes, and it reduces wind noise. No watery eyes anymore.
I hear by 2009 they are going to be mandatory in the deep south, to keep the Ugly covered up….

[bob01081969]

These are for keeping stuff from blowing into your face and eyes at high speed, and I know of a lot of bass fisherman that wear these in tourny's

[bob01081969]

if your going to wear a helmet buy a hanns device from simmon's like nascar uses

[stokernick]

should have had a box of them at Romp Sunday,could have made a lot of people happy!

[Laker]

A better way to discribe these.
Its offers all the face and eye protection of a helmet but MUCH more comfortable and you still get the wind in your hair. For those who still have hair... Sorry Mark and Chad

[benski]

That would probably be Simpson, not Simmons...racing and safety equipment.

[morgantwo2]

those save phace face mask are great. they do keep the wind down.. and make driving through cold air, wind, rain, sleet, whatever you are fishing, or boating in, a lot easier. sometimes i keep mine on when i start fishign in the winter.

[Mike Prickett]

These are great for cold wind protection BUT they ain't worth a crap in the rain ! Water will run down into your face - A helment (full face ) is the only way to go in the rain . I have had two , both have a tendancy to fog over when first put on in the early pre dawn tourn blast offs - They are suppose to be fog proof but they are not. Still , they are GREAT for keeping the cold air out of your face and bugs out of your teeth , BUT THAT'S ALL !