Thousands of boats to re-power..

[Stinky]

-9,000 rpm capability

-Emission standards that satisfy the EPA and CARB.

Lou

These two things are physicaly impossible in a 2 stroke with any one the technologys that are available at this time.

[The Big Al]

I remember back in the early 90's when the 2.4 then the 2.5 came out.

You herd the same **** you here today!

They are heavy and will not turn the RPM of a 2.0l
And will not out run one, can't turn the RPM's!!!!!

Now!!!!!

"HOW STUPID DOES THIS SOUND NOW???"

It's true!

3.0 is the deal and will be the deal!

I will have me one before this year is out.

[B1750]

I remember back in the early 90's when the 2.4 then the 2.5 came out.

You herd the same **** you here today!

They are heavy and will not turn the RPM of a 2.0l
And will not out run one, can't turn the RPM's!!!!!

Now!!!!!

"HOW STUPID DOES THIS SOUND NOW???"

It's true!

3.0 is the deal and will be the deal!

I will have me one before this year is out.

No ones understating what the 3.0 is capable of all we are saying is that the 3.0 is lil too heavy for some of the smaller boats especially when it comes to turning

I only have a 1750 and we have had a 3.0 225 Merc on the back, went well down the straight as you would expect but didn't corner in the slightest, we were on average around 20-30mp/h slower in the corners with the 3.0 over the 2.5

If somehow they could make a 3.0 to the same weight of a 2.5 then that would be perfect but i would see that as being near impossible

[2fast4mom]

Gary..Don't get me started. Outboards were targeted because they were an easy target.

My guess is, that one 747 going from LA to NY one time pollutes the environment more than all the outboards in existence do for one year. Carbureted and EFI ones, that is.

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Originally Posted by 2fast4mom

-9,000 rpm capability

-Emission standards that satisfy the EPA and CARB.

Lou


These two things are physicaly impossible in a 2 stroke with any one the technologys that are available at this time.

That may well be true. Like I said, it's a challenge.

[stevek]

I remember back in the early 90's when the 2.4 then the 2.5 came out.

You herd the same **** you here today!

They are heavy and will not turn the RPM of a 2.0l
And will not out run one, can't turn the RPM's!!!!!

Now!!!!!

"HOW STUPID DOES THIS SOUND NOW???"

It's true!

3.0 is the deal and will be the deal!

I will have me one before this year is out.

I have considered options for repowering my YT. When I emailed Jaco asking about the new Merc HP consumer OB I was told they all weighted (505lbs) to much for my boat. I don’t know the weight of a 2.5 HP motor, but I have to believe it is nowhere near 505 lbs.

Big Al, I think this is point fast4mom is trying to make.

[gfinch]

"Gary..Don't get me started. Outboards were targeted because they were an easy target."
Lou, you were born started!
The technology is starting to catch up, but it will be a while as it trickles down. In outboards unfortunately, I don't think we will see the light, powerful, high winding engine you seek. For niche consumers like us, no. The show case factory race craft, yes.
Now if boat racing would really catch on again and there were other players besides Mother Merc and DA Bomb, who knows!
It's not Green engines it's Green $$$....

[whipper]

Personaly I agree with the fact that the 2.5 was a better motor combination over the 3.0 on 21 and under hulls for sure and that is undisputed! Like what is mentioned the 3.0l is also a great combo on alot of the 21 and under hulls thats a fact.The differance I see is that the 3.0l is heavier than the 2,5 and there for will make your boat slower than the same horse power 2.5 on hulls 21 or less not to mention a lack of RPM! I truly believe that the future will bring us 3.0l and up but they will get lighter and that has been proven time and time again. The auto engine manufacturing are always lowering there displacement and increasing there HP with less wieght. I believe we are just on the cusp of that reality in the marine industry. Just look at all the larger boats for sale over the 21 and unders it Ill bet 3-1 larger for sale. People are realizing again that bigger isnt nessesaraly better! More fuel more money more difficult to store = less use. At this years boat show my money is on good news for us in the way of lighter 3.0l,s and more skeg options for the smaller boat CROWD. A 350-400lb 300hp Verodo with a 15mid enough tourQue to spin a 32 pitch ET to 7500-8000RPM on a GS and a bobs cone sounds about right!! Dreamming will see. James

[David]

I for one, was too cheap to buy a 200XS new. Holding out for used may not have been a good strategy as the motors are rare as hens teeth. I've seen one in my life.

Send me a pm big Al, when you resize to a 3L, and need to lose the 200XS. My little SS000 isn't enough boat for a 3L. At least not with me driving.