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    my dad is 64 and a grandfather too, was also a former national champion tunnel boat racer. Here he is getting behind the wheel of a tunnel (my stv) for the first time in over 30 years. He was like a little kid; once it is in your blood you never lose it IMHO. Things are a little different with todays boats, but the thrill is undoubtedly still the same.

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    Well then, give her a $50 bottle of booze and don't let her know about the hookers, or what you spend on them
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    Jim Russell's info can be a wealth of knowledge. I talked to Jim several times when building my SST 120 boat. I would think that removing most of the positive lift would help a lot as speeds increase as far as safety goes. As said before in this thread, the angle of attack needs to be pretty flat or you will run into problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T2x
    Or...........you could simply use part throttle and be careful. The temptation to push "just a little more"...can be fatal , however. I suggest you put a max speed on your hull...say 70-75...or whatever was the competitive speed of the day...and stay under that limit. In that regard be sure you use a GPS since water pressure speedos were known to slow....as the hull rose out of the water........

    T2x........ in this case the pot calling the kettle black
    Rich you are not saying that you are over powering your wing are you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by outboard bob
    Rich you are not saying that you are over powering your wing are you.
    Heavens no...but when we run methanol and nitrox....we might

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    Readin' ya loud and clear on that issue.
    Gotta keep the nose down.

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    Your Dad looks good for a Grandpa.
    He sure does look familiar. I'll bet I've heard of him.
    We helped the Newberg, OR Boat Club with a Grand Prix they held on the Willamette River in Portland quite awhile ago. I got to hold (using a stand-off pole) Bill Seebold's boat ! That was alot of fun.

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    Barracude Pics...

    here ya go Oregon Barracuda. That is a really cool looking boat, best of luck on the project and please keep us updated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jphii View Post
    Well then, give her a $50 bottle of booze and don't let her know about the hookers, or what you spend on them
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    hee it is again cropped and enhanced
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    Quote Originally Posted by jphii View Post
    Well then, give her a $50 bottle of booze and don't let her know about the hookers, or what you spend on them
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    I would bet the hook in the pads are there to compensate for the excessive aerodynamic lift of the tunnel. If you take the hook out then the boat is liable to become even more unstable.
    I would like to add one additional thing. The key to a fast winning race boat is set up, always has been and always will be. If you can't get around the course, or can't take advantage of the HP you will lose. I don't care how much HP you have if the boat can't handle it you have nothing. With a V-6 you are adding almost another 100# to the boat in the one area you don't need it. To compensate you may have to add 25 to 50% of that weight elsewhere, and still not get the balance right. But what the heck do I know?
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    Point well taken, Jeff.
    As I said in a recent reply, the V6 will NOT be used during the hull 'setup & rework' project on my boat, my 1250 will be. It is a short shaft, has had Bob's Machine Shop nosecone low water pickup mod completed & has solid motor mounts.
    The 225 V6 belongs to my Son. He will be using his 1500 Merc for his project, exact same boat, 2 years newer than mine.
    He knows the V6 is most likely too much motor for this. He does have boat racing expericence: APBA Hydroplane, 25XS, OSY400, C Stock Hydro, etc.

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    I see by the pictures that you have Magnum Missle copy. I am one of the old timers who was racing when those boats were new.Just about everybody who got them going fast enough blew them over.

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    2us70, I was wondering about the similarity to the missle too. The cockpit, seating and stern look very similar, but is the bow of the boat a little different? Kinda hard to tell from the picture, but it sort of looks like it is pointier than the missle was. Any thoughts?

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    They had to make some changes in order to avoid being a direct copy.Deck mods are easier than hull changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2us70
    I see by the pictures that you have Magnum Missle copy. I am one of the old timers who was racing when those boats were new.Just about everybody who got them going fast enough blew them over.
    My friend Wally, who I've quoted a lot around here as a retired Merc employee had a Magnum Missle with a Twister 1 on it when I first met him. His brother had one also with a shortshaft 1500. Their first cousin in Fla. had one also, and I think they said it had a 1350 on it, but it could've been a 1500........ definately NOT a Twister or any other race motor. The cousin blew his over and killed himself in it. It went in backwards so hard that it drove all the sparkplugs through the rear of the cowl. The two brothers both sold their boats not long after. Every time the Missle/V6 topic has come up around here I've posted the opinion that I think it's suicidal to do it, experienced boat racer or not. Those old tunnels with tons of lift built in the tunnel are sudden blow over risks without any warning according to people with a lot of experience in em, and it doesn't seem to take speeds much over high 60's for em to kite.
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    Arrow Missle copy

    I can't find the post.....but when I saw it, it made a real impression on me. There was a picture of a guy, in a purple missle with a V6, idling holding a checkered flag. Somewhere on the post it says "this guy went through the speed traps at 114mph....airborne, upside down, backwards and was killed". Anyone remember that post? Like Norris says, these things will go over with an inline. Play safe. Maybe I'm a little upset by the accident in Tx. but I don't want to see anyone hurt. I doubt any experienced (professional) race driver would get in a missle with a V6. God Bless. Smitty

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