250 Challenge in B&WB mag

[Stinky]

computers.. just takes time to open them up and it is easy from there... compression, ect .. always good but i would imagine there is always more whien it comes to fuel and computer curves that can be found because mother merc cant really wring them out due to having to place some warrantee on them.. even the "racing" motors ar built to live to an extent...

Ummm.................... never mind.

[neveredge]

while your at it, put a merc powerhead and mid on there and you'll be all set

Because I want to go faster, not slower.

[Scream And Fly]

The cure for wanting to go fast:

[NNT]

I got wood

[neveredge]

I got wood

You always got wood.

[JW]

I wonder how many non fishing guys subscribe to B&W? I haven't had a line in the water in 20 years.

Keep it up John.

I used to fish, but now only drop a line once or twice a year from my dock. My true fishing days probably ended in 1982 when I went into the Air Force. That makes it 24 years for me.

I only subscribe to B&WB mag for the engine tests. In fact, I dont even read the depth sounder/fish finder articles. I just flip right past those.

What would this sport be like without Greg and Helmut and JWTjr testing outboards and mods for us????

[Superbender]

Thats just the way my boat runs,Great shot.

[Markus]

Thanks for the kind words. Writing objective stuff, real world and honest, not simply regurgitated ad hype, is very difficult today. As I said, I'll keep doing it as long as I can. But it is getting tougher by the year. Quite simply, many/most publications simply won't entertain publishing a story if it's controversial. Thankfully, Ehlert/B&WB still will.

My impression is that it got worse for a year or so after Bruce Smith left as editor with fewer shoot-outs and more so-called buyer's guides regurgitating ad-type. Then it got better again, and the most important thing that made it better was more articles by JWTjr.

Great suggestions, too. Read next month's Seat Time; I discuss the slow death of outboard mods stories (as "clean" engines proliferate).

I am always in need of good story suggestions!

John, send me an email, and I will give you a great suggestion. I promise. It won't require any testing, just an hour or so reading up. It will be a new insight to the vast majority of B&WB readers, and might have some impact on your engine shoot-outs.

[ghind]

In these kinds of tests, fuel consumption at various RPM points are covered.

What I would like to see is a fuel consumption comparison at the slowest motors fastest speed for all motors.

Lets say that the motors top out at 56, 58, 61 and 62mph. You would expect the 62 mph motor to be using more fuel at that speed than the others at their slower top speeds.

But how much fuel are the faster motors using at 56mph.
Often, I suspect, it takes a lot more fuel to get that last mph or two. This idea might help level the playing fields.

Also, how can I subscribe to this magazine from Australia?

[Lars T]

Any test of the 2.5 VS the fishin mota 250XS??

[Markus]

In these kinds of tests, fuel consumption at various RPM points are covered.

What I would like to see is a fuel consumption comparison at the slowest motors fastest speed for all motors.

Lets say that the motors top out at 56, 58, 61 and 62mph. You would expect the 62 mph motor to be using more fuel at that speed than the others at their slower top speeds.

But how much fuel are the faster motors using at 56mph.
Often, I suspect, it takes a lot more fuel to get that last mph or two. This idea might help level the playing fields.

The tests show this.

Also, how can I subscribe to this magazine from Australia?

Just order a subscription. There is a higher price for international subscribers.

[lugger]

what are the numbers at 4000 rpm ??

[stan merck]

I like reading the tests John does and it is the only reason I read B&W. What I would like to see is a dyno curve for each eng in these shootouts. I know dream on... Anyway, while B&W allows manufacturers to swap props, at this test Yamaha wanted to run the lab prop but Merc said, NO WAY!!! Lab props also can add alot to acceleration not just top speed. I guess Yamaha could of showed up with a special worked prop but they look at it as a typical customer of that boat would, so a stock Yamaha prop was used. Although the Verado sucks fuel it is a nice running eng. I have got to run a 250 and a 225. The 225 is weak to me for a supercharged eng. The 250 is alot stronger. I have never gotten to run a 275. I would like to see it compared to a VZ 300 in any upcoming 300 shootouts since the Yamaha is only about 275 hp anyway.

[1BadAction]

at this test Yamaha wanted to run the lab prop but Merc said, NO WAY!!! Lab props also can add alot to acceleration not just top speed.

thats BS, where did you hear that? the internet rumor mill must be working its magic again

and Lab finishing might improve 90+ mph props on light go fast boats, but the benefits in regular applications arent as noticable.

[JWTjr.]

There is no truth to that statement.

One of the hard-and-fast rules of any B&WB engine shootout is that all props from all manufacturers must be available to run (even for the test results) for anyone who participates. That is clearly stated, in writing, and supplied to the participants before each test. Mercury never said "no way" to any prop swapping, and if they did, they would have to allow us to re-test with a propeller they would allow to swap.

JT