I had to go work on a stove the other day up in the hills of pa and seen this boat it kinda looks like a hydra stream but it has a small block v8 jet drive the only thing i could see on the boat as far as a name is side winder
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I had to go work on a stove the other day up in the hills of pa and seen this boat it kinda looks like a hydra stream but it has a small block v8 jet drive the only thing i could see on the boat as far as a name is side winder
Sidewinder was the original, copied by Baja, n on n on. Sidewinder was the original. flat deck jet application. never known as super fast but it was the beggining of the "jetboat" revalution in the late 70's. big round windshield. Taylor was the big dog here with the Taylor SS or the SJ. that's it from the "alzimers wing" of the SNF old timers wing. :cool:
Well the Siderwinder has a great following but an iff"y past or so it seems. Glastron made the Hull that Schuster liked after watching some off shore races. Schuster borrowed a 16 ft Glastron from a dealer and Splashed the hull.
I am not sure who came out with the Lo Pro Deck 1st or the SS/Tahiti deck but both had a copied Glastron Hull.
Either way both Splashed each others decks and as far as I know both went out of business back in the 70's or early 80's.
I have a Schuster Tahiti, also known as a Sidewider SS or a Cobra.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/89/mytahiti2.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3999/mytahiti1.jpg
Now as to Taylor's Again we are talking to different boats.....OK Taylor's or CA Taylor's
OK Taylor's were flat bottom SK, SJ or V drive with a few limited Mod V Hulls and maybe 10 O/B's.
The CA Taylor's were Mod V Hull and either in Jet, I/B a few V Drives and a few O/B.
The CA Taylor I bought.
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4625/smalldscf1106.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6...lldscf1110.jpg
A true classic, and one of the "original" performance boats (from a point of brand recognition) from the late 1960's through the 1970's.
http://www.fiberglassics.com/library/Sidewinder
So popular, that it appears someone is still building them
http://sidewinderboats.com/
This boat looks to be 18 ft and i would say it cold be bought at a pretty good deal it has the serial number on the aluminum rub rail I don't have the money to buy any thing rite now im laid off the boss just throws me a bone under the table hear and there.
and i found a old Baja looks like its about 21ft closed bow it has a inline hanging on the back i hate to see these old hot boats setin around and not being used and i know this boat could be bought cheep
It's a terrible shame that so many older boats are sitting around, turning to dust, when so many people who appreciate them would love to recover them, but are prevented from doing so because of time, money, space, distance, etc.:(
You are so rite If i had the money and room I would old boats setting every ware and probably be divorced LOL
Be cautious of the company building the New Sidewiders as it seems they aren't producing any boats but taking a lot of deposits. On the Sidewider Forum there is quite a history with the company having a lot of issues, a couple early boat broke and sunk due to lack of foam or wrong foam, there was a report of one loss of life due to issues...I wish the Sidewinder Forum was up but something is wrong with the site just now.
Karsten
They also made wooden tunnel hulls for a few years in the early 60's to get their name out in the OPC racing world. The original Sidewinder was a 16 footer popped directly from the 1965 Glastron 16 footer. They simply lowered the sheer line slightly and put an "SK" type deck on the hull. it was built lighter than most Glastrons and ran well with a single 1250 BP Merc. The first hulls came to the East Coast in 1968 or so. Bob Van Epps and Calvin Powell raced them that year.
TX2,
Actually it was Schuster that splashed the Glastron after 16 ft Deep Vee after watching an offshore race and hte flat bottoms getting their butts kicked. Schuster borrowed a Glastron from a local dealer and copied the hull over the weekend.
Sidewinder came along and copied the hull Schuster had copied and added a Lo Pro Deck, Then Sidewinder knocked off the Schuster Tahiti deck pictured above...Everyone was suing everyone and I don't think anyone ever won anything....Then came all the copies of the Lo Pro and Tahiti decks.
Sidewinder also made the Seabold Warrior Tunnel Hulls which still command a great deal of money today.
Ricekiller,
You ought to go talk to the guy and see what he wants. You might be surprised and he want just want it gone. I have seen two of these lately being given away, a few more hauled to the dump....You either find a guy that wants an older boat and want to keep it going or ya can't give these older boats away.
The Sidewinder-Boats Forum is full of people that love Sidewinders and all the copies. I ran through one resto post where a guy found a Sidewinder 16 SS (haul like mine above) that had been converted from out board to I/O or Jet using 2x4's, hacked up, sitting on the ground, no cover for years....Completely redone and back to an O/B.
Saw another post where found out a buddies boat had been out on the property from something like 16 years and the people wanted it gone.....Hull was about all that was left and had to cut down a few small trees to get it out but someone hauled it home.
Karsten
My brother and had one with an online 150, more boat than a couple really young knuckleheads should have but we managed somehow to keep the wet side down. It was a really col boat back in the day.
My Buddy in High School ( 1969 ish ) had a GREEN Metal Flake Sidewinder with a Inline on it. Everybody thought it was the fastest thing on the planet... ( Might have been at the time ;) )
Jay
I grew up on a 69 lo pro sidewinder with a 115 evinrude,its till around my uncle has it now I'll see if i can dig pics of up heres a youtube video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEPJGGW8OeA
2 real nice boats there Karsten. Congrats.
Sounds like a real mess..... but a pop is a pop and it sounds like both companies deserved each other. The 14, 15 and 16 foot Glastron hulls became the "basis" for a lot of hulls back then including Checkmate. Glastron and Sea Ray are probably responsible for more boat companies' tooling than anybody else, with the possible exception of Don Aronow's 24 footer.
The Sidewinder tunnel hulls were actually made by a third party in their factory. They made about a dozen or so in both single and twin engine configurations and one of the big duals was actually a four point design. They were neat early tunnels and ran pretty competitively, especially the little single engine designs. This was between 1967 and 1970 or so, long before any Seebold involvement.
My dad was a Sidewinder dealer in the late 60's, early 70's here in Gig Harbor, WA. Up until a couple months ao he still had an 18' Green and Gold flake Sidewinder with a Mercruiser Inline-Six 165hp I/O. That was a great boat, motor combination backin the day. It went about 50 mph, had a lot of torque for skiing, and was very efficient.
My first boat was a purple & silver metalflake 16' Sidewinder had a 150 Merc w/pt. Fun ride at the time. Used it in the ocean here in Ma. Now have a 27' MAGNUM... rides better. GUIDO
couple mid 70 s sidewinders
Winders, Most fun is the 14ft with a pad(ya they made a pad,14 only I believe).Oldest son bought 1 with 90degr 115hp,(dead)for the grandkids, fixed haul, put 115hp 60degr with 5 1/2 set back lift. insane, ran great. BUT up here kids under 16teen cann't run more than 40hp,(got to have stupid ticket and age) so one of those merc 40/60 motors showed up. Some day the 115 will return when he looses interest in his R/R and the kids leave home, HA HA!
This is my 86 Canadian built 20ft Seebold Eagle that was built by Sidewinder. My first boat was a 16 Low Pro with an Evinrude 135.
Here is a link to a forum dedicated to Sidewinder Boats and clones.
http://www.sidewinder-boats.com/port...talk/index.php
Karsten
that thing has a tunnel V design which I would guess to be close to something like a Stoker or something and that trend is definatly of the 80's vintage. the Taylor I'm speaking of did come from Oklahoma or some mid western state as I remember. I didn't know the sidewinder was a copy of glastron, it seemed wider than the gt-150 or the others. so I'd say a good job of changing the original, but still it's like a lowlife trying to snake your ole lady, just sleazy :mad: interesting thread, fun out :cool:
look at the picture in my avatar. thats me at 4 or 5 years old in my dads 16' sidewinder with a 150 tower. king of the lake in its day. the guy who bought it still stores it at loon lake marina, where i work. runs it one week a year. i love summerizing this thing every year. talk about chinewalk! oh yeah- and that is a can of busch in my hand.
Years ago a friend of mine had one with a 455 Olds and adjustable jet drive. Cool boat.
Here's a nice one that was for sale on ebay.
http://i52.tinypic.com/25zjdhd.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/ivd8xd.jpg
smart people don't build boats with foam this is how boats get water logged and rot you just a dumb ass
Still have my 1971 - Super 16 - 140 Mercruiser . Nice boats for general all around fun and skiing .
http://i44.tinypic.com/21boxtc.jpg
thanks tom i know who the dumb @ss really is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ps this is a great site where people help people AND dont call people names ,if i was a moderator ,SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:reddevil:
Sidewinder 18' I bought one new and ran it with a 135 mercury inline 6 in the early 70's. It was a light blue one with white seats. Ran pretty good and was my step up from a Glaspar G3 with a 50 merc.
Have to look for a picture I should have around somewhere.
:iagree: :cheers: :DQuote:
No sir you are a moron and have zero knowledge of boatbuilding !!:cheers:
Not condoning or justifying the above remarks. Not even sure why the 1 Post poster had to say what he did.
Recently (a few years back) someone out of Canada had been making and marketing New Sidewider boats and of the few 1st production they did indeed use a wrong foam for floatation. This ended badly with the drowning of one lady when one boat swamped and abruptly sank.
After the courts ruled in favor of the family, many investors/future dealers filing claims and what not....Last I heard was the plant had been seized and anything worth value was being sold.
Note....This has nothing to do with the vintage Sidewider, Schuster boats as they have nothing under the floor.
Karsten
Jay Pilini from Spectre has the molds now i think
They look a lot like a Wriedt Scorpion that I had back when. They were all copies of copies of copies it seems ..........................
Mine had a Berkeley and I still have the Ford 428 Cobra Jet that was in it :):) Fast as hell
The wierd part was it had no coring just a boat load of fiberglass layup, the only stringers it had were at the back for the engine, the transom was wood cored though. It was a hand full :):):)
Jay pilini of spectre had a couple rigged and ready at the tampa boat show last summer real purty metalflake.