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SUPERBASH
10-28-2005, 01:59 PM
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81hydrostream
10-28-2005, 02:20 PM
That is cool looking. What motors are on there?


Ray

blkmtrfan
10-28-2005, 02:20 PM
That is awsome :cool:

So Rich is it ready to run?

When is it going to get wet?




http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7256/devil6tk.gifBash: The duct tape pic made me fall out of my chair :D

RBT
10-28-2005, 02:25 PM
Looks awsome, but does it float with the powerheads above water?

..... the motors are Champ's.

RT

willabee
10-28-2005, 03:23 PM
That thing is BEAUTIFUL....GREAT JOB!........I have no idea why you would be " lusting after Ted's Wing " when you have that beast in your shop.

Some questions:
What is it's history
What is the significance of T351
What is the horsepower
Why is Mr. Sherlock listed as a Driver ( is that an oxymoron :) )

rnelems
10-28-2005, 03:42 PM
Absolutely beautiful! I was wondering when we would see some updated photos. Thank you :p

delawarerick
10-28-2005, 06:13 PM
Where is inline6 now that is freaken beautiful. :eek: Rick

Powercat
10-28-2005, 08:42 PM
The most horspower that ever was rigged and properly setup and
run for recorded times was what... maybe 300hp total if even that ...
Varing reports, but seem to remember speeds of 115 to 120 being
spoken of by reliable sources...
Now this one is going to see a solid 500hp .... And with the wing controls
set up and functioning reliably, I think this thing is going to make
a whole lot of people sit up and take notice.. Everybody who ever had
anything to do with the 20ft Wings agrees that they never reached
their full potential. This may be the setup that does it...
Can't wait !!!

Mark75H
10-28-2005, 09:30 PM
The most horspower that ever was rigged and properly setup and run for recorded times was what... maybe 300hp total if even that ...Varing reports, but seem to remember speeds of 115 to 120 being
spoken of by reliable sources...

You are right ... "properly set up" only about 300 total hp has been used, but 2 Wings were set up with 3 motors in the era when they were approx 150 each..... total previously attempted: 450hp Legitimate speed record attempts were made, so the ~120-ish speed is varified .... however

triple engine set up required removing the center flap, seriously affecting lift


Looks awsome, but does it float with the powerheads above water? RT
I'm sure it will. Wings float very high and level, the addtional weight is nothing compared to full fuel tanks.

I'd go for the second ride with Rich, the first run he can go solo :eek:

Bruster
10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
Now this one is going to see a solid 500hp .... And with the wing controls
set up and functioning reliably, I think this thing is going to make
a whole lot of people sit up and take notice.. Everybody who ever had
anything to do with the 20ft Wings agrees that they never reached
their full potential. This may be the setup that does it...
Can't wait !!!

You going to contract with Chuck Yeager to find out? :eek:

outboard bob
10-28-2005, 10:21 PM
I like the Petty Blue and the Metalflake silver. Great outlay

T2x
10-29-2005, 11:16 AM
That thing is BEAUTIFUL....GREAT JOB!........I have no idea why you would be " lusting after Ted's Wing " when you have that beast in your shop.

Some questions:
What is it's history
What is the significance of T351
What is the horsepower
Why is Mr. Sherlock listed as a Driver ( is that an oxymoron :) )


1. It has no racing history....purchased new by a Chrysler OB dealer in Indiana as the twin engine classes were evaporating.....He put a hideous tiger stripe paint job on it and used it only as a parade float during holidays. Later sold to a guy in Texas who put two long shaft inlines on it with shifting stock lowers.......and installed deck cleats..... and seats from a Mustang Automobile.... It was very deteriorated and had a lot of water in it for years when we got it......


2. 351 is one of my old racing numbers......

3.HP is 2 x current Champ HP..... probably 600-700 HP total

4. John is an old friend and has been very helpful. He is currently working with these engines and speeds as a Mercury's race test driver/engineer.

T2x

T2x
10-29-2005, 11:26 AM
As always...Thanks Bash...for posting the pictures.

T2x

Dave S
10-29-2005, 05:32 PM
So why the Duck tape???? Quack Quack :D Just for that crack??? :eek: Should be a great boat motor combo, I don't want a ride. Too fast for this chicken. :o

SUPERBASH
10-29-2005, 06:32 PM
The T2X Wing is looking good. Can't wait to film 'er on the water...or in the air. :rolleyes:
-Thought ECM was the official driver :rolleyes:

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JnT
10-29-2005, 08:47 PM
AWESOME to see this old gal com back to life. Please update http://www.darrensoffshorephotos.com Can'twait to see her run!

Powercat
10-30-2005, 01:27 PM
http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Switzer.html
I have updated my collection of Wing photos of the
six boats that have come to surface with enough photos
and backup information to justify an indivdual page...
Start at the link above and click on the link to the
Wing Race boats. Follow that to a background page
with the listing of the boats and the blue buttons that
link to the 6 boats with pages of their own...
Rich's boat is a true "hot rod"
Ted's boat is an all original "mint" condition
Bob's is a fine "restoration" to like original
The other's are works in progress and we hope to
see more of them soon. I would love to be able to
get photos of some of the other known existing boats
to add to this collection, so if anyone out there has
access to them send them my way...
Thanks
Danny Leger

outboard bob
10-30-2005, 01:33 PM
Now that the simbergers have the boat running good We need to see you in the Wing Danny

Powercat
10-30-2005, 02:02 PM
Bob:
I have been keeping track of the events ya'll have been attending
with just that in mind... Hope to make it to one in the coming year..
I was asked the other day about where my interest in the Switzer
Wing comes from. Other than an obvious connection to all things
catamaran becuase of my background... Check out this photo of
our Power Cat "Wing" from 1959. Had the true airfoil center section
and all.. Not enough power in 1959 for it to "fly" but was a fun concept
boat to play with..
Regards,
Danny Leger


Now that the Simbergers have the boat running good We need to see you in the Wing Danny

outboard bob
10-30-2005, 02:51 PM
Airplane tickets are pretty reasonable.Albany to LAX was 277.00 on US AIR. Couldnt drive 1 way for that. Probably some more now but ......

I myself do not own anything but catamaran type boats right now.
That boat with the twin Mercs in the photo must have gone along at a good
clip with the marc engines .

If i were to own a V bottom again it would have to be a Allison Craft. They are the best V that i know of. Bob

philip12
10-31-2005, 07:09 AM
This is Kim! The boat looks awesome! Let's go for a ride! :D

philip12
10-31-2005, 09:47 PM
Wow, it looks great, I can see the ECM influence, Bash do you have any pics. Of ECM’s 32’ Superboat cat? Black, Blue, Silver! Looks great.

SUPERBASH
11-01-2005, 05:32 AM
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willabee
11-01-2005, 03:13 PM
I might be wrong about this, but I was under the impression that the 1350 stackers built by the race team pulled approximately 175 hp on the dyno. I'm also under the impression that the only 20' Wing to attempt a kilo record was the silver metalflake with canopies X119 that Kitson ran in the Miami nationals.
I think the 3 engine run was just over 100 and the 2 engine setup ran right at 110 ( about the same speed as Schnoover with stacked 1100's on an 18 footer ). It was obvious that the 20' Wings needed something to compete with the 18's and maybe more horsepower is all they need.
T2X has almost twice the power that Kenny had....... that boat is going to be SCARY FAST!:eek:
You are right ... "properly set up" only about 300 total hp has been used, but 2 Wings were set up with 3 motors in the era when they were approx 150 each..... total previously attempted: 450hp Legitimate speed record attempts were made, so the ~120-ish speed is varified

T2x
11-01-2005, 04:07 PM
T2X has almost twice the power that Kenny had....... that boat is going to be SCARY FAST!:eek:

Ya think?

By the way...don't forget the advances in propeller and lower unit technology...and the power up/down built into the engines......and we are putting sponson fins on it for turning.

I predict that nobody will ever run this boat WOT. But it will do 100-120 mph.......consistently....even in turns :p Those 7 liter/GP hydros at Clayton better watch out

T2x

T2x
11-01-2005, 04:08 PM
This is Kim! The boat looks awesome! Let's go for a ride! :D

We better stop meeting like this....I think Phil is getting suspicious.

T2x :D

RBT
11-01-2005, 04:17 PM
"I predict that nobody will ever run this boat WOT."

Curious, do you think that hull has 150 in it?, it might have the HP, but I really have to question if it has enough ability to stay flat much after 110 ish. My sources say that is all they really could run. I would suspect that the hull has WAY WAY too much lift, or you better have two really dumb fat guys up front.......... of course I am just speculating as I have never seen one in real life.............. WOULD ONE OF YOU TELL ME WHERE THE WING IS IN CANADA..... PRETTY PLEASE.

RT......BTW Mr. T2X I LOVE Darrens boat!, see you at Clayton!

T2x
11-01-2005, 05:56 PM
"I predict that nobody will ever run this boat WOT."

Curious, do you think that hull has 150 in it?, it might have the HP, but I really have to question if it has enough ability to stay flat much after 110 ish. My sources say that is all they really could run. I would suspect that the hull has WAY WAY too much lift, or you better have two really dumb fat guys up front.......... of course I am just speculating as I have never seen one in real life.............. WOULD ONE OF YOU TELL ME WHERE THE WING IS IN CANADA..... PRETTY PLEASE.


RT......BTW Mr. T2X I LOVE Darrens boat!, see you at Clayton!

No one knows where the rumored wing is in Canada...other than that it is said to be in a Motorcycle dealership...Maybe an urban legend....eh?

As far as the max speed on a Wing........ they do not tend to lift the nose at speed.....and since they act like a hydro rather than a tunnel....with a "tucked under" engine angle and the transom elevated off the water....they should run pretty level...if there is sufficient weight forward...etc. In addition the 20 footer has less lift than the 18 foot (older) version....

That having been said....we'll probably never know.

T2x

Watermark
11-01-2005, 09:38 PM
No one knows where the rumored wing is in Canada...other than that it is said to be in a Motorcycle dealership...Maybe an urban legend....eh?

T2x

Perhaps this is the wing hiding out in Canada? Eddie Doyat raced it on the CBF circuit. RBT, if I find it, I'll let you know.. maybe.. ;)

T2x, your boat looks incredible!

outboard bob
11-01-2005, 10:46 PM
I keep coming up with replies for this but I have changed, I am now a nice person. :eek:
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Whats up with this John

outboard bob
11-01-2005, 11:29 PM
:) :) :) :) :)

PARKER RABE
11-29-2005, 11:12 AM
Whats The Latest On This Wing , How Long Till It Runs!???

T2x
11-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Whats The Latest On This Wing , How Long Till It Runs!???

Long answer

Still to be completed:

Steering plates....at machine shop

Bell crank and peddle actuator for aeleron.............. on drawing board

Final paint and vinyl..... in process

trip to X-site

Voila'

Translation.......... sometime this winter

T2x :)

PARKER RABE
11-29-2005, 04:26 PM
Sweet

SUPERBASH
12-18-2005, 10:14 AM
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Old fiberglass
06-29-2006, 10:45 AM
Has your wing seen water yet under power ??

T2x
06-29-2006, 10:58 AM
Nope...got the props and one unit last week.... so all engine parts are accounted for.

We are shooting for Clayton.

T2x

PARKER RABE
06-29-2006, 12:19 PM
i cant wait to hear how it runs !:)

RBT
06-29-2006, 12:20 PM
I can't wait to see if it floats with the powerheads above water:eek:

T2x
06-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I can't wait to see if it floats with the powerheads above water:eek:

No problem they float right at the top of the wing in the rear..

see attached.

Remember it is 20' long and 8' wide.

T2x

MagicFloat
06-29-2006, 08:59 PM
The new ExtremeBoats mag issue is a must read for wing enthusiests.Even has quotes from T2x

blkmtrfan
06-29-2006, 09:01 PM
The new ExtremeBoats mag issue is a must read for wing enthusiests.Even has quotes from T2x

I saw that, very nice read :cool:

SUPERBASH
06-30-2006, 05:28 AM
Hopefully I'm allowed to get Spy(video)Shots of some GreatSouthBay pre-testing of Dust 'N the Wind????
And maybe T2X will throw me a few quotes as well......http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3134/sasmokin9cr.gif (http://imageshack.us)

T2x
06-30-2006, 06:09 AM
Hopefully I'm allowed to get Spy(video)Shots of some GreatSouthBay pre-testing of Dust 'N the Wind????
And maybe T2X will throw me a few quotes as well......http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3134/sasmokin9cr.gif (http://imageshack.us)

I'll give you a quote.........

T2x

Dave S
06-30-2006, 05:36 PM
What props are you going to try???? How many spline?:)

T2x
07-10-2006, 07:23 AM
What props are you going to try???? How many spline?:)

You mean these......?

Special thanks to Dewald Props.....

T2x

rnelems
07-10-2006, 11:04 AM
I notice you have them turning in. :)

T2x
07-10-2006, 11:42 AM
I notice you have them turning in. :)

We find that turning them in adds 5 mph for the building.........

Makes about as much sense as the other BS I hear about the topic.

T2x;)

Dave S
07-10-2006, 04:38 PM
The left one looks bigger.......Is that the one on the left or the left hand one.??:rolleyes: Are they water proof......:D As the world turns......Waiting.:)

MagicFloat
07-10-2006, 07:10 PM
The one on the right(the left hand one) is bigger. That is to allow more lift on the port side cause Rich weighs more than Sherlock. :)

Old fiberglass
07-13-2006, 10:30 AM
Why was the shape of the aileron changed from the original Switzer design on the Stradivarius ??

T2x
07-13-2006, 01:04 PM
Why was the shape of the aileron changed from the original Switzer design on the Stradivarius ??

The aeleron on the 18 was more like ours...the ones I've seen on the 20's (ours was missing) liiked like conventional tunnel tabs...and didn't seem to fit the hull..... So we customised one and picked up the airfoil right where it left off.

T2x

RBT
07-13-2006, 01:11 PM
At some point would it not have been easier and safer to build a new hull. I mean you are putting 3 times (not 4 times, unless your engine guy is REALLY good ) the power on a hull that is surely brittle. Regardless of new core stringers and whatever the the original skin, is gonna be weak and impossible to bond too.
While I admire this project, it is beginning to look more like an attempt to make an old brittle boat exceed all it's design parameters, than a restoration.

RT

sho305
07-13-2006, 03:02 PM
I don't know about that. There surely has to be thousands of 60s-70s glass hulls on here and plenty have run 100+mph and I have yet to see one fail from glass breakdown. They do fail from core breakdown, and it fails to properly support the glass. I have seen a few they think water got into the glass and caused it to delaminate, but it was in there a long time and of course there was damage to let it in to begin with and possibly faulty hull assembly. I also wonder what size of a factor age is on old glass, but I just don't see any proof in all the old boats on here.

There are also a lot of older deep vees here that have been pounded on Lake Michigan and glass failure is not a topic that ever comes up as far as I know.

Propster
07-13-2006, 03:08 PM
That thing is cool! How did it run with the 1350's?

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl004.jpg

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl005.jpg

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl008.jpg

RBT
07-13-2006, 03:14 PM
yes.... brittal. The older the more sun beaten the glass the harder and more brittal the glass. And there is no ability to have any chemical bond what you add new structure.

RT

T2x
07-13-2006, 03:52 PM
I appreciate your concern....and your point is not entirely without merit.

However....There's always a "however"........

1.Core has been replaced in all the critical areas

2. We'll never really push this hull much over 100 (Vintage Courses are intentionally short)

3. There are vintage hulls from the 20's and 30's running out there.

4. The Miss Diablo is older....and quite ship shape.

5. If the hull gets a grand total of an hours use over the next five years that will be a lot...as course time is very limited at these events.

6. I thought about taking a mold off of it, but will only do so in cooperation with Bob Switzer....and never make a piece for sale out of the one time use mold...... I'm very serious about unauthorised pops..... They make me sick...
But you knew that.

7. As stated there are old fibreglass hulls all over the place...The first Challenger is only 8 years younger.......and you'd buy it in a heartbeat if you could find it.

If I sense that the hull is brittle...we'll pull her off the water.

T2x

T2x
07-13-2006, 03:55 PM
That thing is cool! How did it run with the 1350's?

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl004.jpg

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl005.jpg

http://www.powercatboat.com/Switzer/Luhrs/rl008.jpg

From what I understand she hit about 70 with long shaft motors, stock lowers, and two bladed bronze thru hub exhaust props. In addition one engine (and transom) was held on with a strap...see picture...and that sponson was out of plum as a result...(all fixed now).

By the way those are not 1350's when I checked the SS#'s one is a 140 and the other a 150.

T2x

Dave S
07-13-2006, 06:30 PM
If the boat is brittle............;) When ya going to test it?:)

MagicFloat
07-13-2006, 09:01 PM
Old fiberglass getting brittle depends on where it's been. My 1967 and 1968 Stars spent 30 years in old warehouses and are as sound as can be. My 1963 Glasspar G-3 is as sound as the brand new one I bought in 1963.On the other hand we bought a 1973 Glastron GT-150 to restore,but it was pretty much unrestorable,years in a pasture gave it cracks almost impossible to fill or repair,our glass guy suggested we throw it away,which we did.But I asked him,if this was an irreplaceable classic(i.e.,Wing) could he fix it? He said sure,all it takes is money. A GT-150 isn't worth it,a Wing is priceless. Sherlock's was on that pole a long time,wonder how it is coming along?

sho305
07-13-2006, 10:43 PM
"If I need more trim I just tighten up my handy transom-saver strap...." jeez.

BTW I should have said great project guys, can't wait to see more. Those certainly were one of a kind.

Old fiberglass
07-13-2006, 11:21 PM
Magic Float - I didn't bring up the brittle fiberglass issue. I agree with what your saying though. So many factors go into it. Like was it a decent resin, catalyzed correctly, a good lay-up to begin with and blah, blah. How did the boat with stand that ravages of time and for forth. Got to look at the whole picture and make an assessment form there. It's really surprising how resilient old fiberglass still is 30 ~ 40 years later. I don't think TX2's wing have any problems. Got a fiberglass business and work with the stuff everyday....doesn't make me an expert though ;)

TX2 - The 20 footer aileron has a radius in the front like the 18' to fit up tight into the hull. The bottom is flat, but both ailerons serve the same purpose and look the same from the bottom of the boat. Two and half guess's what the notch in the 20 foot aileron was for :cool: I'm curious to see if you get past the 20's proposing problem.

rnelems
07-14-2006, 10:07 AM
Old Fiberglass-I know you didn't start the thread,I just started my reply with the words "old fiberglass". I'll try to be more careful :)

willabee
07-14-2006, 12:00 PM
At some point would it not have been easier and safer to build a new hull. I mean you are putting 3 times (not 4 times, unless your engine guy is REALLY good ) the power on a hull that is surely brittle. Regardless of new core stringers and whatever the the original skin, is gonna be weak and impossible to bond too.
While I admire this project, it is beginning to look more like an attempt to make an old brittle boat exceed all it's design parameters, than a restoration.

RT
"World's Fastest Switzer Wing".......Sounds pretty cool doesn't it?

If this was a restoration, T2x would have to run it with a pair of inlines from the day, but that's not what he decided to do. He'll have about twice the horsepower that the 20's ran in their time (see post #24 on this thread) and I think it is accepted that the 20's ran slower than the 18's primarily because there wasn't enough horsepower available back then to push the bigger boat any faster. Hull design didn't limit them to the 110's (see post # 27), power did.
I'm no expert on what it takes to beef the structure up properly to take the additional horsepower, but I would bet that T2x and his team did it right. If it were my boat, I'd find out how fast I had to go to make that claim, and then go out and set the record......I see the perfect place to have that statement added to the already great paint scheme :cool:.

Sunburnt
07-14-2006, 01:00 PM
"I'm curious to see if you get past the 20's proposing problem."

Rick, I don't think T2X will have any problem getting thru it. He's got plenty of power to drive on thru it if need be. Like Willabee said, they were limitied by the power of the day.

Big power, Big cleavers, trim and tilt + Aileron. It's a non issue.


Jeff

Mark75H
07-14-2006, 03:23 PM
"World's Fastest Switzer Wing".......Sounds pretty cool doesn't it? Sounds cool to me ... from what I know 120+ two ways or 130 one way would be it.

When talking about max power ever used on a 'Wing you should remember that several were run with triple stackers .... probably 475+ total hp

largecar91
07-15-2006, 06:55 AM
Didn't the triples run slower than the twins?

Mark75H
07-15-2006, 08:48 AM
I've never seen anything that said the triples were slower, its just that they didn't set as many records or go a whole lot faster.

The suspicion is that removing the flap to install the third motor changed the aerodynamincs so there wasn't enough lift.

Sunburnt
07-15-2006, 09:45 AM
Here is a quote from Bob Switzer, it is from the wing page over at Powercat boat.com. I'm sure 3 were slower because of the loss of the airleron.

"Now, we were being asked to supply the OMC camp with Wings, and we couldn't, because of our deal.
So we developed the 20 footer, and I will be the first to admit it was probably years ahead of it's time.
We used a wing foil that was good for higher speeds than the engines of that day were capable of.
Hence, we only made 20, 20 footers. One of which was fitted with 3 Merc engines that won the
unlimited class in the Miami Marine Stadium. My guess would be in the early 70's. Funny thing,
that boat with 3 motors clocked out at 102 mph and with the center engine removed, she hit 112 mph.
Show's to go ya! how much a clean hull shape may mean more than just brute H.P. "
Bob Switzer 14Oct2003

Mark75H
07-15-2006, 10:05 AM
Without spending a lot of time sifting thru all the Switzer Wing stuff ... didn't one of the triples average 118 mph 2 ways?

I should have said "all the triples weren't slower"

Old fiberglass
07-15-2006, 12:02 PM
Only two 20 footers are "known" to have run with triples. Kenny's X-119 and Don's T-199. I wish the two tripled engined wings met on the race course but they never did. The T-199 wing did have a funtional aileron. It's the yellow aileron in the above post. The moon shaped notch in it was for the third motors mid section.

The triple engined wings acceleration was excellent and they turned better in the corners..... hanging with the tunnels at times. Top end seemed to have suffered.

All the 20 foot wing racers I have talked to indicated the 20's proposed except for one.......

SUPERBASH
08-16-2006, 11:13 AM
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Raceman
08-16-2006, 01:22 PM
I wonder if the Switzer Brothers ever invisioned one of their wings runnin' with a pair of 300 horse Champ motors on it.:eek: :eek: :eek:

MagicFloat
08-16-2006, 10:21 PM
I think Bob and Dave knew that larger motors were coming,the 20' Wing was designed for big power not available then, but the 20' was way ahead of engine development. When Rich and Darren's Wing gets wet I believe we will see what they had in mind.

Powercat
08-24-2006, 08:25 PM
This is the cover shot of the Extreme boats issue with the
Switzer Wing story in it..

Sunburnt
06-10-2007, 10:09 AM
T2X,

Have you had her out for the Maiden Voyage yet?

T2x
06-11-2007, 08:18 AM
Nope....and I can't give you a logical reason why...other than that life keeps getting in the way of finishing the project.

T2x

sho305
06-11-2007, 09:25 AM
Nope....and I can't give you a logical reason why...other than that life keeps getting in the way of finishing the project.

T2x
Well I know all about that.:rolleyes:

Sunburnt
06-13-2007, 11:01 AM
I too know about the life stuff getting in the way. I guess we can't have fun all of the time..

T2x, I also need to thank you for some advice you gave me about 9? years ago regarding my Powercat (speed expectations etc.). The performance numbers you gave me were dead on. Not dissapointing just realistic, on the flip side I guess we've done good, as we've been able to get these 46 year old Dog's running as good as they did back in the Day, even without a rebuild..

Jeff

T2x
06-13-2007, 02:31 PM
I too know about the life stuff getting in the way. I guess we can't have fun all of the time..

T2x, I also need to thank you for some advice you gave me about 9? years ago regarding my Powercat (speed expectations etc.). The performance numbers you gave me were dead on. Not dissapointing just realistic, on the flip side I guess we've done good, as we've been able to get these 46 year old Dog's running as good as they did back in the Day, even without a rebuild..

Jeff

Always glad to help a fellow Powercat lover.

T2x

Ghost S84
07-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Good luck drivin that richie just dont blow her over like my grandfather did with his tunnel hull back in the day...how fast she gonna go??

T2x
07-09-2008, 08:51 AM
Good luck drivin that richie just dont blow her over like my grandfather did with his tunnel hull back in the day...how fast she gonna go??

Fast as you want...........

Originally ran 110 with twin 135HP Stackers

Now has twin 375 HP Formula One engines....do the math.;)

T2x

RBT
07-09-2008, 08:53 AM
That is my dad Eddy Doy-yat,and yes he still has it. Today(summer 2008) he is trying to sell it. I am Randy Doy-yat,( who raced tunnel boats for the last 14 yrs.,) from SST-90 to F-1. If there is anybody interested in his Switzer wing cat,just e-mail me and I will give you more detail of it. My e-mail add., is;doyyatracing@sympatico.ca . Thanks;Randy.

I requested info via e-mail and have not heard a thing.

RBT
07-09-2008, 08:54 AM
Fast as you want...........

Originally ran 110 with twin 135HP Stackers

Now has twin 375 HP Formula One engines....do the math.;)

T2x

I still wanna see if it floats!

MN4V
07-09-2008, 05:28 PM
I want to see your boat do a POWER WHEELIE!!! Come on and finish it up!!
Mark Nelson

ghost28
07-09-2008, 06:48 PM
its almost there...one small snag otherwise it woulda been wet again on tuesday...

milkdud
05-02-2010, 10:10 PM
Getting on 2 years later. Ill ask how did this thing turn out? Or it may be answered in another post that I need to dig for.
Conrad

T2x
05-03-2010, 08:01 AM
Getting on 2 years later. Ill ask how did this thing turn out? Or it may be answered in another post that I need to dig for.
Conrad

Here's one of more than a few threads on it.

http://forums.screamandfly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170490

milkdud
05-03-2010, 12:46 PM
Thanks! Sounds like a lot of fun. Had it out this year?

Conrad

T2x
05-03-2010, 01:45 PM
Thanks! Sounds like a lot of fun. Had it out this year?

Conrad

Not yet .The first 2010 run will be at the Switzer regatta in July, Clayton in August..........then Tonawanda....then OFF.

T2x

xskid
05-04-2010, 10:59 PM
im going to mount video camera on my boat , or helmet. CANT WAIT!!!! already taking orders for the dvd!!! :cheers: